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[Gill]
Well I make it 1 minute past now, so shall we
start?
[Gill]
Can you tell us
more about the book you have just published?
[Joel Walton]
My favorite
question!
[Gill]
Okay, make me buy
it <g>
[Joel Walton]
I got a
phone call a little over a year ago from the editor in
chief of Howell asking me if I wanted to write a book
about Labrador Retrievers. My first
thought was: No, I would rather write a book about
training or my Rottie Herschel. It seems
that she was having dinner with Ian Dunbar in NYC and she
said to him: I need someone to write a book about
Labs. Ian said give Joel Walton a call... Now about
the title: there are over 400 Complete Idiots guides out
there. It is a popular series and I could not
get them to change the name (smile),,. Anyway, I
wrote the training book with some Lab history etc....I am writing
my second book right now, it will be a training book, but
the management relationship
[Gill]
Would it be
suitable for beginners and experienced alike Joel?
[Joel Walton]
and
education system and the training info will be very similar to what you find in CIG Labs
[Pattie]
Why did they want
the book just about Labs?
[Joel Walton]
Gill, I
write in very simple words and the guides like that so
the info is great for beginners and i like to think that
experienced folks would benefit from the positive system
I encourage.
[Gill]
thats good
[Joel Walton]
Before I
forget, you folks are lucky to have Gill answering
questions, he is one of the best and I see him over
here learning from the best folks in the world.
[Gill]
lol.....he is a
she, but thanks
[Joel Walton]
Has anyone
here read CIG Labs yet?
[Gill]
I know Dianne from
our forum is in the middle of it now Joel
[Gill]
okay, has anyone else got a question to ask Joel?
[Joel Walton]
ok
[Pattie]
Joel, do you use
clicker training or operent conditioning?
[Joel Walton]
Clicker
training is a subset of operant conditioning, I use
clicker and lure and reward and lots of just watching the
dogs and rewarding wanted behaviors.
[Pattie]
Do you suggest
giving the command while luring, or getting the behaviour
before introducing the command?
[Joel Walton]
I like to
use lure and reward with new pups and untrained dogs to
get sit stand down heel and stuff like that. I
like to use clicker training with fearful and aggressive
dogs and to grab hard to lure behaviors.
[Wendy]
What sort of
rewards do you use - food, toys or voice or a mixture
[Joel Walton]
All of the
above, but with a hungry non fearful dog or pup food is
quick and easy.
[Grumby]
I tend to use
body language to put the dog at ease with me before
trying anything at all
[Gill]
Dogs communicate
through body language Grumby so thats good
[barbara w]
what kind of
body language? the calming messages?
[Pattie]
Do you ever
suggest aromatherapy or TTouch for dogs and when?
[Joel Walton]
using your
voice as a reward marker is important. body languqage is
important. pups and dogs understand food rewards...
[Grumby]
I find they
respond very well
Dianne]
Where can we learn
more about our body language?
[Gill]
Calming Signals is
a good place to start Dianne
[Grumby]
Watch your dog
playing, eating,sleeping etc
[Dianne]
Is that Turrid?
[Gill]
yes
[Dianne]
thanks
[Grumby]
you will find it
very complicated at first but once you start to
understand you soon pick it up
[Pattie]
I don't want to
hog the questions, does anyone else want to ask Joel
something?
[Gill]
Joel did you see
the question on aromatherapy and TTouch?
[Joel Walton]
Hi Grumby,
Did you have any questions?
[Dianne]
may I ask about
dog posturing?
[Gill]
Ok, lets have
Diannes questions first
[Gill]
please could you
ask again Dianne?
[Grumby]
How should I cater
for a Teddy and Sheeba ?
[Grumby]
problem
[Joel Walton]
Would you
like me to try to answer it or should we let Grumby?
[Grumby]
Sheeba is very
dominant at times but Teddy is most certainly the Alpha
[Gill]
Grumby, hang on a
minute please, can we come to your question next please
[Grumby]
sorry, I'm busy
typing
[Pattie]
What did you want to ask, Dianne?
Dianne]
I have a castrated
dog (16mnths) who approaches my bitches head on but with
body turned and then offers his side of his backside to
the dogs. What does this mean?
[Joel Walton]
Gill who
would you like to answer this question?
[Gill]
you please Joel,
your our expert tonight
[Joel Walton]
Ok, what
happens after this approach?
[Dianne]
They play
[Joel Walton]
Ok, then it
looks like a invitation to play and a signal that nothing
bad is going to happen (smile).
[Dianne]
Yes but I would
like to understand why he goes in backwards
[Joel Walton]
I tend to
like to solve problems and always interview the client
thoroughly about behaviors they want to improve and what
they want the dog to learn. Turid's book is excellent for
reading doggy language
[barbara w]
would that be
his personal signal do you think? I don't think I've ever
seen an approach like that
[Joel Walton]
I have seen
other dogs do this.
Gill]
Is it an invitation
to the other dog to chase Joel?
[Joel Walton]
One
advantage to owning multiple dogs is watching them
interact. If I was not at the computer. I would be
out in the yard with a beer watching my dogs play.
[Gill]
lol, so true
[Wendy]
During play our
dogs do what we call a hip check where they bump hips as
an invite to play
[Joel Walton]
Does anyone
have any training or behavior questions?
[Grumby]
Yes
[Joel Walton]
go grumbly
[Grumby]
Is it normal for
a new bitch in the pack to attempt domination of the
alpha male ?
[Joel Walton]
Grumby that
is a general question, do you have a specific behavior
questions? Normal
covers a wide variety of behavior so my answer would be
yes it is normal any problems?
[Grumby]
We have just got
a GSd called Sheeba from the dogs home and she is intent
on winding Teddy up to the point of fighting
[Wendy]
Sheba is also a
tail chaser
[Gill]
can I help anyone?
Cecilia]
This is not
directly behavior - but I had a question out about smell
- anyone with experience with using Vicks to
dilute smell on a male when a bitch is in season?
[Gill]
you can buy Vick
for babies, its not so strong as the adult version better to use a
tiny tiny amount of that
[Dianne]
Thanks Gill
[TIna]
Cecillia are you
trying to live with a intact male and female in the same
house?
Cecilia]
Unfortunately,
yes - right now we are playing rotating dogs - one in -
one out at any one time except at night when Quinn is
baracaded in my room
[TIna]
Cecillia I would
invest in a totally enclosed dog run with concrete floor.
what your are trying to do is enough to drive you insane
[Grumby]
While were
waiting, i would like to say that the backing on bum
first is a natural thing for a dog to do in the wild. It provides a non
threatening posture so there is no uncertainty on the
part of the dog/s being approached that there is going to
be play
[barbara w]
oh, so backing
shows the other dogs that he's not going to growl or bite
or doing anything aggressive.
[Gill]
anymore questions?
[barbara w]
what about
tail chasing? is that behaviour?
[Gill]
yes Barbara, its
called stereotypic behaviour
[barbara w]
what does it
signify?
[Wendy]
Our Sheba chases
her tail, usually when no one is paying her any
attention. We have been told that it is something that
she does as a result of her having been kept for long
periods in kennels.
[Gill]
yes, very often
learnt in kennel environments
[TIna]
Barbara I find tail
chasing normal in most accounts. caused by boredom
[kathy]
My dogs chase
their tail from time to time, it seems quite normal
[Gill]
Aromatherapy is excellent for stereotypic
behaviours, like tail chasing
[kathy]
where can we find
more info on aromatherapy
[Wendy]
What aromas would
you suggest for tail chasing?
[Pattie]
I've been
experimenting with aromatherapy for separation
[Gill]
It depends on the
dog, every dog is different and needs a particular remedy
made from them
[Pattie]
Has anyone used
the Bach Flowers?
[barbara w]
I have a
website somewhere for the aromatherapy. I'll post it when
I find it.
[Pattie]
www.aromaleigh.com
[Cecilia]
Speaking of
aromatherapy - is there a scent or combination of scents
that works to mask the smell of a bitch in heat??
[Joel Walton]
To answer to
aromatherapy and TT question. I do not use either, but am
not against them (smile). Some of my
friends use Bach Flower and they find some success with
it. I tend to use behavior modification and training
smile.
[Gill]
Okay I think Barbara had the next question
[barbara w]
I wondered
about recall. Kali is very good about coming until she
gets interested in something. I've tried food and
scratches etc and wonder if I should keep her ON leash
and then let her off only for short occasions
[Joel Walton]
Happy to
answer the recall question.... You always
have to remember that dogs will do what is most rewarding
to them. If playing
with another dog is more rewarding then food or a
scratch: You need to
set it up so if she comes to you she gets to play with
other dog for a couple of minutes. Then you do
a recall. If she does not come, then you make sure the
other dog can be taken away from play and you
get your dog using any pleasant method, then you say go
play and release. Very quickly
dogs find out coming to you results in all rewards.
[Joel Walton]
Meanwhile
you have to manage the dog to prevent the dog from
rewarding herself by blowing you off.
[barbara w]
ok so with her
she just loves to run. if she comes to me she gets to go
back and run some more. but if she doesn't for a while
when she does come do I put her on the leash. .... seems
like punishment for COMING since she doesn't think about
the not coming at that point.
[Joel Walton]
I would keep
her on a flexi and not let her run until you have better
control. Or just don't call her when she is
running if she is not going to come. If you can
find a long narrow controlled area that should help you.
[barbara w]
ok. I think
I've got it. thanks.
[Gill]
thanks Barbara
[Gill]
Cecilia, its your turn now
[Cecilia]
my question has
to do with prongs vs the head halters - I know that
prongs can create more aggression in dogs - is it the
same with the head collars?
[Joel Walton]
I tend not
to put dogs on special equipment. If the dog is already
on a halti or gentle leader and I don't see
any harm, they can continue to use it. I train the owner
to train the dog. I don't like
prongs especially on aggressive dogs. buckle
collar, leash food voice smile......best equipment is
your brain and voice.
[Cecilia]
For the most
part my pyr bitch is OK about things, but every so often
she gets concerned. Every so often she will decide that
she would like a cat while we are walking... If I have her on
a buckle collar she will pull till she is choking and I
am being dragged, not fun for either of us
[Joel Walton]
Don't let
her have the cat! Can you find
a cat she likes to train her around? head collars
may be ok. I have had good success training dogs to pay
attention to the owner
[Cecilia]
We have 3 cats
at home and there is no problem in the house w/ her cats.
We have a very firm "no chase" rule which is
followed - the problem is outside on walks
[Joel Walton]
whenever
they see any exciting stimuli. Read Jean
Donaldson's Dogs are from Neptune and try the open bar
method.
[Cecilia]
open bar method
- is that for the cat problem??
[Joel Walton]
Yes.
[Gill]
Is equipment and
how to use it in your book Joel?
[Joel Walton]
Yes.
[TIna]
hahha I am so glad
I have your book on order!
[Joel Walton]
Thanks Tlna!
[Gill]
Me too Joel
[Grumby]
Can I comment on
the Current subject ?
[Gill]
Grumby you have a
comment on this subject? before others have there
questions?
[Grumby]
I would like to
say that the pinch collars are a barbaric excuse for
people who do not talk to their animals people who advise
you to use such equipment don't really understand social
communication with their animals and seeking stimulation
from others through chat rooms like this IS 100% better
!!!!!!!!
Gill]
thank you Grumby
[Gill]
DIANNE, I believe its your turn for a question?
[Dianne]
Joel, i am at the
end of my tether with my dog aggressive, nervous
aggressive dog. I have tried
various methods but none really work
[Joel Walton]
Sorry to
hear that. Dianne can
you describe the last episode of aggression?
[Dianne]
The last episode
was 2 days ago when she ignored the come and went for a
dog
[Joel Walton]
I would not
want you to have an aggressive dog off lead. Ask Gill to
refer you to a competent behavior consultant in your area. or If you
want to send me a e-mail at jwalton@iamdigex.net I will
try to refer you to a behavior consultant in your area.
[Dianne]
She is normally
on a flexi, muzzled. On this occasion she was running
free as there were no dogs in sight
Joel Walton]
You must
manage her better. That is your job smile
[barbara w]
I have a quick
question. what is a flexi?
[kathy]
a flexi is an
extending lead
[barbara w]
like the ones
you can reel back in?
[kathy]
yes
[Grumby]
I found
controlled meeting (rewarded with food) worked in 2 Weeks
to the extent of removing the muzzle completely
[Wendy]
I run a puppy
socialisation class where I let the pups play together.
Occasionally we get a dominant pup who in my opinion
seems to go too far when playing. Do I let the other pups
sort it out or do I intervene?
[Joel Walton]
That is a judgment call. You have to make your best decision. Lots
of times you can split the group so
a real pushy puppy is playing with bigger or stronger
dogs. You could
invite the puppy into a group with older pups. They will
teach him some manners!
[Grumby]
good advice but
we don't have the option of splitting the group
[Wendy]
How do I know when
to as sometimes the other pup is squealing away?
[Joel Walton]
That is one
of the things you must gain with experience. Safety is
always your first concern.
[Gill]
Do you let them all
free run at the same time?
[Grumby]
In general they
are allowed to rummage the club hut together
[Wendy]
We tend to have
small groups of about 4-5 pups who all run free in the
play sessions
[Joel Walton]
Also, make
sure that the pups don't play for more than a minute or
two before they do a recall. You don't
want the activity to be so rewarding that you teach the
pup to ignore the owner. By doing
recalls every two minutes you can control the level of
play and tone it down. Just don't let them
play until they are calm
[Wendy]
They are allowed
short play sessions then the owner must recall them for
some exercise before they can go and play.
Joel Walton]
Wendy sounds
like you are doing it right. Don't you have a nice pit
puppy for the overpowering pups to play with?
[Wendy]
We're not allowed
such things as those I'm afraid. The powers that be in
the UK think pit bulls are killers.
[kathy]
I have a question
[Joel Walton]
Go kathy
[kathy]
I have a border
collie who jumps up and down manically when I'm doing
things like hanging out
laundry or in the garden.. any suggestions?
[Joel Walton]
Another
management problem. If the Border Collie keeps doing it,
it is rewarding. First prevent the jumping up. Don't let
the Border Collie run loose when you can not pay
attention. Then train the Border Collie to sit for
attention. I explain
take it and off in my book, which might be helpful to
you, but sit is the best answer. No training
takes the place of good management. However a
great relationship and great training allows you to
manage less
[kathy]
thanks joel, I
think this probably goes hand in hand with a problem gill
is helping with
[Gill]
Elaine cant be with us tonight Joel, but she had a
question, may I ask it for her?.. she wanted to know
more about rage syndrome
[Grumby]
What is rage
syndrome ?
[Joel Walton]
I have been
working with dogs for about 18 years and have never seen
a case of it. When people
say their dog is exhibiting aggressive behavior, I do a
careful history and I always understand why the dog is
being aggressive. Sometimes
there can be a medical problem that is contributing to the
aggression, that is why a complete physical is always
called for in aggression cases.
[Grumby]
I would like to
know if it is possible that the aggression I mentioned
before could be down to the Bitch being complete and the
Dog being Cast... ?
[Joel Walton]
Are you a
dog owner or a dog trainer?.. or both
smile
[Grumby]
Both
[Joel Walton]
Great! The
answer is sure it could be, but i would want to do a
complete history see what the dogs
[Grumby]
I have 7 and
train 3, wife trains 2 and kids 1 each
[Joel Walton]
were doing
see what you are doing and then go on from there. My
experience is that most dog trainers with multiple dogs
have intra-family aggression problems.
[Grumby]
This is a first
as the others are mostly related
[Joel Walton]
Especially
if they feel they are the Alpha and they can punish dogs
for being aggressive towards each other.
[Joel Walton]
Whenever I
am asked to speak to dog trainers, the most popular topic
is intra family dog aggression.
[Gill]
thats interesting
Joel
[Grumby]
So it is very
common then ??/
[Joel Walton]
I have over
twenty five labs and one rottie, been there , done that,
now I have very few problems. Yes
extremely common.
[Grumby]
Should I
intervene at any point ????
[Joel Walton]
Ok with me... Oh you mean
with the dogs grin.
[TIna]
ok I do see it in my pack. but it is not bad yet.
do you interfere when the dogs fight? no blood fights. 3 field labs/ 1
field/confer. 1 beagle,1 aussie/border mix
[Joel Walton]
Let me say
this. Giving advice about aggression without seeing the
dogs is dangerous so all of the following applies to my
experience with my own and clients dogs. you want me to
continue?
[Gill]
yes please
[Joel Walton]
Ok this will
be a little long.. I used to
have bitches that would fight and hurt each other. I
separated them and that kept them from getting
hurt. I listened to old breeders and trainers that said
you have to be the alpha bitch smile. When I
jumped in, they fought harder and sometimes i got bitten. Years ago, I
started reintroducing bitches in the following manner: I crate them
right next to each other so they are the closest canines
to each other. I do not let
them out together for weeks or more. When I see that they
seem to like to be next to each
other...I put them
out in my fenced in yard, I go in the house and watch
from the window. I have done this with many pairs
over the years and they never have put holes in each
other. My
experience is that almost all intra family dog aggression is caused by or made worse by what we do;.
[Gill]
totally agree
[Joel Walton]
Yelling and
correcting usually make it worse. Leaving many
times stops the dogs from fighting. they probably
fighting for your attention.
[barbara w]
if they
already had a rivalry-relationship, would putting them in
crates next to each other as you described help with the
problem? or would it already be too late?
Cecilia]
What about 2
males - intact males? Has this approach worked?
[TIna]
most of our fights
are outside when I am inside the house. I do not
interfere at this point. but they are still getting worse
between older alpha and 4 yr. Female
[Gill]
Can they see you
watching Tina?
[TIna]
no they can not see
me
[Grumby]
I think that may
be the answer as Teddy is certainly very attached to me
and Sheebe most definitely thinks of me as her male
[Joel Walton]
It works
with bitches who fought for years. I works with dogs. I currently
have three intact males kenneled in the same run with bitches in heat on either side. They don't
fight they are buddies. Crating them prevents fights and lets you see how they feel
towards each other over time.
[Cecilia]
The crating
together reminds me of something I read and applied when
my daughters were young - the advise was to have
bickering siblings sleep next to each other - it worked.
[TIna]
The 4 yr. only
stays with us 6 mos. out of the yr. co-owned. maybe I
should reintroduce this way. they are mother /daughter
[Joel Walton]
You could
always muzzle both of them and then train each one on
lead in the same room, two people.
[Gill]
A super answer
Joel, thanks
[Joel Walton]
you are
welcome.
[Cecilia]
Can I bring up another issue?
[Joel Walton]
fine with
me.
[Cecilia]
my 6 mo old pyr
has a problem with being confined. He will go into
his crate, or any other small place and is OK until the
door or whatever is closed. I have come upon
2 solutions - at night the crate is currently not
workable - so I have a sort of play pen arrangement by my
bed. He has a door
that opens up to me - if he gets concerned at night he
nuzzles me and goes back to sleep. Am I encouraging his
displeasure of being confined by offering myself as a
reward of sorts? I do know that
both of us are sleeping a bunch better now.
[Joel Walton]
Well, the
crate is usually a management tool to use while training
the pup where to go to the bathroom. And what to
chew. Are you having those two problems?
[Cecilia]
the potty thing
is taken care of - but he chews on all sorts of stuff
[Joel Walton]
Teach him
what to chew and what not to chew. That is covered in my
book and in Jean Donaldson's books.
[Cecilia]
this morning he
got a CD, some shoes, some plastic food stuff...
[Joel Walton]
Stuffed
kongs are great. Meanwhile do what works for you. Sounds
like you have a workable solution.
[Cecilia]
so far he will
accept the crate door being closed for about 5 minutes -
if I continue to toss in treats.
[Joel Walton]
What does he
do when he does not accept the crate?
Cecilia]
he attacks the
door - actually he attacks any door/ barrier. We have
baby gates that we used with Marcella - he had those
figured out in no time. He has tried
chewing through the front door.
[Joel Walton]
Has he hurt
himself doing that?
[Cecilia]
When we first
put him in the vari kennel he had all of his baby teeth -
he pulled them out pulling at the door.
[Joel Walton]
How about
lately?
[Cecilia]
has he hurt
himself - I would think pulling his baby teeth out hurt
<grin> currently, I
don't leave him in the crate unless I am there looking
for signs of being uneasy
[Joel Walton]
Where do you
live?
[Cecilia]
in southern California
[Joel Walton]
There are
some great trainers in that area that I can refer you to.
Send me an email with exact
location zip code ect. and I will refer you. You need in
person help. Keep doing
what works while you look for help. Lots of
positive training builds up confidence. Long downs at a
distance would help.
[Cecilia]
ok - thanks
[Gill]
How long have you
been working with dogs/people Joel?
[Joel Walton]
about 18
years...
[Gill]
wow, you must have
seen some changes in that time
[Joel Walton]
I was in the
military for 25 years and instructed there... I changed
entirely when I went to Ian Dunbar's first ever puppy
workshop. There are
still too many dog trainers that have not changed....
[TIna]
the aussie/border
mix stray i took in about 3 wks ago. lots of
desensitiation to car lawnmowers bikes etc. we have great
progress until I am cutting my grass on the opposite side
of the fence.
[Joel Walton]
And the
question is? (Ian loves to say that at seminars)...
[TIna]
he still goes nuts.
I have used kids"snappers" not fireworks and
tossed them about 3 ft behind him to distract him then
praise him... am i creating a
problem? he is not scared but curious about the sound
[Joel Walton]
Please
explain the situation more completely. You are mowing the
lawn on the other side of the fence
and he gets real excited?
[TIna]
totally frantic
[Joel Walton]
Don't do
that any more. Put him in the house when you mow.
[TIna]
I can cut inside
the yard with him loose now. at first just the sight of
the mower made him frantic even with the engine off
[Joel Walton]
He probably
thinks the lawn mower is going to eat you! ... You have
made good progress.
[TIna]
I hadn't thought
of that~
[Joel Walton]
He might,
ask him.
[Gill]
does he chase the
vacuum Tina?
[TIna]
I dont know havn't
introduced it yet. but was really afraid of cars
[Wendy]
Our Sheba likes to
stalk the vacuum cleaner
[Pattie]
Charley just
stands where ever you need to vacuum next.
[Joel Walton]
I suggest
that the owner learn to communicate with his dog. And to
learn to pay attention to what the dog is
trying to say with his doggy language. I do not
recommend calling someone up at a distance and asking
them what your dog is thinking. But hey it
might work. I just know that good education. good
relationship, good management and lots of love works and
you don't have to make the long distance phone call. The rules of
learning apply whether you understand them or not, just
like gravity.... They are
simple and any psychology 101 textbook has them. Of course Jean
Donaldson, Ian Dunbar and a few others
(smile) spell them out in doggy terms in their books...
[Gill]
who is your favourite
author Joel?
[Joel Walton]
Ian Dunbar, Karen Pryor, Jean Donaldson.... "Don't shoot
the dog" by Karen Pryor is a must read.
[Gill]
in that order?
[Joel Walton]
How to teach
a new dog old tricks by Ian Dunbar is another must.
[Gill] do you know of John
Rogerson?
[Joel Walton] sure have
seen him many times... nice chap.....John Fisher
has some great stuff. Johns is good.
[Gill] Such a shame he
passed away... terrible loss
[Joel Walton]
John Rogerson is good. His aggression stuff
categorizing every
type of aggression is interesting.
[Gill]
I do a lot of work
with JR
[Joel Walton]
Any more doggy questions?
[Wendy]
Just one. How can
I get Sheba to break her fascination with her tail?
[Joel Walton]
Is Sheba
causing any damage to her tail?
[Wendy]
Not at the moment.
It is going bald at the end, the last 2-3 inches. She
sometimes lies with it clamped in her mouth.
[Joel Walton]
What have
you tried so far?
[Wendy]
We have tried
calling her, throwing things near her and recently Graham
has been flicking her ear when she has not been looking.
[Gill]
did you read the
post on endorphins Wendy?
[Pattie]
Didn't Marie
suggest some TTouch?
[Wendy]
I did read the
post. It seems to be like a comforter to her when she
thinks she is alone (even though we are all around her).
She also does it when she doesn't seem to have anything
to do. The other dogs will settle when they have nothing
but sometimes it is like she doesn't know how to settle.
[Pattie]
Is there any way
to teach a dog to relax, or is that a personality thing?
[Joel Walton]
Have you
tried addicting her to a kong?
[Wendy]
She likes tennis
balls and rawhide bones but is not a chewer like the
other dogs.
[Joel Walton]
If you stuff
a kong she will want to chew it and try to get the food
out...
Wendy]
Will try it but
will have to keep her away from the others with it
because they love tasty things. They are presently fed separately at the moment because Sheba and Benji are
being fed on meat whilst they are on dried food.
Cecilia]
don't know if
this will work in your situation - but we have 2 kongs
and I fill and present them together that way they
each have a kong - I even try to "even" the
treats...
[Joel Walton]
You need
many stuffed kongs if you have two bitches....Bitches fight
over limited resources...
[Pattie]
You can also make
it easy at first, so she gets really interested in it.
Then make it harder so it takes her more time to figure
it out.
[Wendy]
In our house if
everyone had a treat then Beaux would want to gather up
all the treats and protect them and Benji would go around
barking at those with the treats because he wants theirs
as well as his own. I did think about
getting her a Buster Cube but she is not really a food
dog. We noticed that when she came to our house where our
dogs looked forward to a titbit of our food she didn't
seem to know what it was.
[Joel Walton]
When she is
with other dogs, is her tail more interesting?
[Wendy]
She forgets her
tail when she plays with other dogs
[Joel Walton]
Then you
only have to use the kong when she is alone.
[Wendy]
She also forgets
it when Graham is training her. It is only when she has
nothing to do or feels that she is alone that she chases
her tail.
[Joel Walton]
That's when
she has the stuffed kong.
[Wendy]
Is this not giving
her a reward for chasing her tail?
[Gill]
not if you give it
to her before she starts that and give attention
for chewing it
[Joel Walton]
Listen to
Gill.
[Gill]
Well Joel, many
thanks for contributing so much tonight
[Joel Walton]
My pleasure. Good evening
and give your dogs a hug and kiss for me.
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